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私信通知仍然被禁用吗?(我们真正需要做的只是禁止论坛访问邮件服务器)
现在能正常工作了吗?我之前对论坛代码做了一些修改, 以禁用私信电子邮件通知,但刚刚又撤销了其中大部分,因为没有必要。
我向 PBL 发送了移除请求。
常见问题中写道:“首先要知道的是:PBL 不是黑名单。 你被列入其中并不是因为发送垃圾邮件,也不是因为你做过任何事情。PBL 只是一份涵盖全球所有动态 IP 地址空间的列表,也就是通常分配给 ISP 宽带用户(DSL、DHCP、PPP、有线网络、 拨号上网)的 IP 地址范围。动态 IP 地址被列入 PBL 是完全正常的。事实上,世界上所有动态 IP 地址都应该列入 PBL。即使是静态 IP,如果不发送邮件,也应该列入 PBL。”所以,我们甚至不需要为了允许发送垃圾邮件而把它留在名单上。
这里再次附上有关 PBL 的信息。
-------- 原始邮件 -------- 主题:论坛电子邮件通知、PBL 黑名单及维基注册 日期:Thu, 29 Jul 2010 03:18:56 +0100 发件人:Satoshi Nakamoto satoshin@gmx.com 收件人:Martti Malmi mmalmi@cc.hut.fi
http://www.bitcoin.org/smf/index.php?topic=338.0
电子邮件黑洞名单,或者至少托管注册邮件 服务器的 ISP 位于其中某份名单上。
“看起来 bitcoin.org 被列入了 PBL。” http://www.spamhaus.org/pbl/query/PBL340779
我认为我们的问题可能在于启用了论坛通知,例如 当你收到私信时向你发送电子邮件,但我们没有对新账户进行电子邮件验证。 有人能否在未经验证的情况下填入其他人的电子邮件地址,然后让系统向那里发送内容? 我们需要立刻阻止这种情况,以免它被用于不好的事情。要么禁止所有 通知,要么确保电子邮件地址已经过验证。
我更倾向于禁止通知,以及任何由论坛向你发送电子邮件的功能。我 有点喜欢不要求电子邮件验证。但如果这是确保我们不会向 未验证地址发送电子邮件的唯一方法,那我们也可以这样做。
如果我们申请从 PBL 中移除,最好先确保已经把 问题处理妥当。
我把 Registration->settings->registration of new members 改成了“Member Activation”。我猜这意味着会通过电子邮件验证。 “Member Activation 启用此选项后,任何在论坛注册的成员都会 通过电子邮件收到一个激活链接,他们必须点击该链接,之后才能 成为正式成员”
我认为这是确保论坛不会被用来向 其他人的电子邮件地址发送邮件,并可能被用于发送垃圾邮件的唯一方法。
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Are PM notifications still disabled? (All we really need is disable the forum's access to the mail server)
Does it work correctly now? I had made some forum code changes to disable PM email notification, but just reverted most of them as unnecessary.
I sent a removal request to PBL.
The FAQ says: "The first thing to know is: THE PBL IS NOT A BLACKLIST. You are not listed for spamming or for anything you have done. The PBL is simply a list of all of the world's dynamic IP space, i.e: IP ranges normally assigned to ISP broadband customers (DSL, DHCP, PPP, cable, dialup). It is perfectly normal for dynamic IP addresses to be listed on the PBL. In fact all dynamic IP addresses in the world should be on the PBL. Even static IPs which do not send mail should be listed in the PBL." So we didn't even need to allow spam to be on the list.
Here's the info about PBL again.
-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Forum e-mail notifications and PBL blacklist and wiki registration Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 03:18:56 +0100 From: Satoshi Nakamoto satoshin@gmx.com To: Martti Malmi mmalmi@cc.hut.fi
http://www.bitcoin.org/smf/index.php?topic=338.0
of e-mail blackhole list or at least the ISP that hosts the e-mail server for registration is on one of those lists.
"Looks like bitcoin.org is listed on the PBL." http://www.spamhaus.org/pbl/query/PBL340779
I think our problem may be that we have forum notifications on, like e-mail you when you receive a PM, but we don't have e-mail verification of new accounts. Can someone put someone else's e-mail address without verifying it, then have stuff sent there? We need to stop that right away before it gets used for something bad. Either disallow all notification, or make sure e-mail addresses are verified.
I'm more inclined to disallow notifications or anything where the forum sends you e-mail. I kinda like not requiring e-mail verification. But if that's the only way to make sure we don't send e-mails to un-verified addresses, then we could do that.
If we request to get off of PBL, we'd better make sure we've got the problem secured first.
I changed Registration->settings->registration of new members to "Member Activation". I assume that means it e-mail verifies. "Member Activation When this option is enabled any members registering to the forum will have a activation link emailed to them which they must click before they can become full members"
I think that's the only way to make sure the forum can't be used to send to other people's e-mail addresses and potentially use it to spam.